Colin Dambrauskas: Cody Franson - Could the Flames Help Out the Toronto Maple Leafs?

Liles + D'Amigo for a cowboy hat.

good article, franson would cost a 1st rd pick which is likely a top 3 in next years draft. I like your angle on getting liles, as a habs fan I would hate that deal! but feaster could have the upper hand and get liles, colbourne for 3rd rd pick. the leafs are that desperate, giving away liles is huge to them as i'm sure they would've bought out liles if there was 3 compliance buyouts. Colbourne is a low prospect in my mind, hes been around for a few years and doesn't fit in top 9, but would in cgy.

Yes Pleeeeeeease!!

butler would be who i would be trying to move. butler and a 5th i what i would offer

Liles for a 2nd or 3rd, and i'm content.

This is news. Were desperate? really? Toronto would be better off with any of the following:

1. Taking the first and third from another teams offer sheet
2. putting Liles in the minors
3. Signing Franson later this year.
4. Trading Franson to one of 10 other teams for something better then CALGARY's third round pick.
5. buy out Liles - we got the money.

There is no way what your prosing is even remotely reasonable for Toronto.

Liles + D'Amigo for a cowboy hat.
- Blazed

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

I'm reluctant to trade Colborne for the simple fact that he is a centre, and we currently are weak at that position. There's a one in a jillion chance Colborne becomes a #1 centre, but I think the Leafs need to retain him because we are so lacking in prospects at arguably the most important position.

We'll trade you Liles and a middling prospect for absolutely nothing. I don't think the Leafs want an 8th defenceman back - we already have too many of those.

Liles and D'Amigo for a 4th rounder. Do the deal over lunch, and MLSEL picks up the tab.

Good morning, my Flamey friends.

Deal.

This is news. Were desperate? really? Toronto would be better off with any of the following:

1. Taking the first and third from another teams offer sheet
2. putting Liles in the minors
3. Signing Franson later this year.
4. Trading Franson to one of 10 other teams for something better then CALGARY's third round pick.
5. buy out Liles - we got the money.

There is no way what your prosing is even remotely reasonable for Toronto.

How about Franson and Colborne for 2 first round picks and a second? That's closer to reasonable than your proposal.
- akermack

1. What offer sheet?
2. Liles in the minors is a terrible idea - all but $925,000 of his salary would still count against the cap.
3. Maybe. But we'd be better off trading Liles for nothing.
4. Re-read the article - it was Liles for a 3rd, not Franson.
5. Why would you take that cap hit, when you can trade him to Calgary for a cowboy hat?

Liles for a 2nd or 3rd, and i'm content.
- jerseyleaf

Yeah we aren't getting that, I'd throw in a prospect just to get a thank you card signed by Jay Feaster.

I'd be absolutely thrilled if Nonis pulled out any value.

1. What offer sheet?
2. Liles in the minors is a terrible idea - all but $925,000 of his salary would still count against the cap.
3. Maybe. But we'd be better off trading Liles for nothing.
4. Re-read the article - it was Liles for a 3rd, not Franson.
5. Why would you take that cap hit, when you can trade him to Calgary for a cowboy hat?
- Atomic Wedgie

Corrected the Liles for Franson. but there is no desperation here- reread the post.

Yeah we aren't getting that, I'd throw in a prospect just to get a thank you card signed by Jay Feaster.

I'd be absolutely thrilled if Nonis pulled out any value.
- TheLeafsInsider

Too bad we dont have mayers, white, hagman, and stajan to throw into a deal anymore!

I don't think you have to add a prospect to get rid of Liles. He's a pretty good PMD and can run a secondary powerplay unit. Leafs could probably get rid of him for a 2nd or 3rd easily.

I don't think you have to add a prospect to get rid of Liles. He's a pretty good PMD and can run a secondary powerplay unit. Leafs could probably get rid of him for a 2nd or 3rd easily.
- JVR2112

Please talk to Homer.

Pretty please?

This is news. Were desperate? really? Toronto would be better off with any of the following:

1. Taking the first and third from another teams offer sheet
2. putting Liles in the minors
3. Signing Franson later this year.
4. Trading Franson to one of 10 other teams for something better then CALGARY's third round pick.
5. buy out Liles - we got the money.

There is no way what your prosing is even remotely reasonable for Toronto.
- akermack

its about the cap situation. you cant hide liles in the minors, you only get 900k cap relief, just getting rid of him, giving away helps big time. franson is good and you have to sign kadri, your centres are terrible. nonis doesn't hold leverage, shoe away liles, give franson that cap hit

I don't think you have to add a prospect to get rid of Liles. He's a pretty good PMD and can run a secondary powerplay unit. Leafs could probably get rid of him for a 2nd or 3rd easily.
- JVR2112

Yep

To CGY --> JM Liles, S Percy, 2nd Round Pick
To TOR --> M Cammalleri (50% contract retained by CGY)

Leaves cap room to sign Franson and Kadri, while giving you dynamic scoring threats on top 3 lines along left side when you add in JVR and Lupul. For Calgary this brings in veteran player, a good prospect and a high pick, creating more ice time for younger players. Why hold onto Cammalleri and risk injury before deadline, plus you are going to pay him that sunk salary anyways if you keep him until February. Very likely Cammalleri accepts the trade, though I am not clear on what protection Liles would have.

I don't think you have to add a prospect to get rid of Liles. He's a pretty good PMD and can run a secondary powerplay unit. Leafs could probably get rid of him for a 2nd or 3rd easily.
- JVR2112

But they're desperate. You always ask for a prospect when you want the upper hand.

I say, take the flaming turd and.....RUN FOREST....RUN!

This is news. Were desperate? really? Toronto would be better off with any of the following:

1. Taking the first and third from another teams offer sheet
2. putting Liles in the minors
3. Signing Franson later this year.
4. Trading Franson to one of 10 other teams for something better then CALGARY's third round pick.
5. buy out Liles - we got the money.

There is no way what your prosing is even remotely reasonable for Toronto.
- akermack

Oh Leafs fans...

1. No team will offersheet at the cost of a 1st and 3rd, dream on.
2. Sure, I guess.
3. What? lol. You think he will sign after having to sit out part of the season? Dream on buddy.
4. Once again, good luck.
5. You don't have a 3rd buyout, thanks for showing where your knowledge base is at.

There is no way what you are proposing is even remotely possible for Toronto.

To CGY --> JM Liles, S Percy, 2nd Round Pick
To TOR --> M Cammalleri (50% contract retained by CGY)

- Falcian

Now You're making it sound like Calgary's desperate.

Liles for a 2nd or 3rd, and i'm content.
- jerseyleaf

He's not worth a 2nd

Too bad we dont have mayers, white, hagman, and stajan to throw into a deal anymore!
- jerseyleaf

Ian White was a pretty good defencemen, I miss him in T.O.

Oh Leafs fans...

1. No team will offersheet at the cost of a 1st and 3rd, dream on.
2. Sure, I guess.
3. What? lol. You think he will sign after having to sit out part of the season? Dream on buddy.
4. Once again, good luck.
5. You don't have a 3rd buyout, thanks for showing where your knowledge base is at.

There is no way what you are proposing is even remotely possible for Toronto.
- IggyOnly

that's not "Leaf fans", thats only one yahoo

Oh Leafs fans...

1. No team will offersheet at the cost of a 1st and 3rd, dream on.
2. Sure, I guess.
3. What? lol. You think he will sign after having to sit out part of the season? Dream on buddy.
4. Once again, good luck.
5. You don't have a 3rd buyout, thanks for showing where your knowledge base is at.

There is no way what you are proposing is even remotely possible for Toronto.
- IggyOnly

As per #5, August 2-4 is the NORMAL (non CBA) buyout window. Normal buyouts that count against cap. Geez, does anyone on this site know hockey?